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TOPIC: Tubeless Ready - but am I?

Tubeless Ready - but am I? 2 years 11 months ago #1086

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Having spent a life threatening 45 mins the other evening trying to change a tube in the slop and cold that is an Epping night ride, I have come to learn that the reason the tyres are so difficult to get off is that they are tubeless ready.

Clearly at 45 mins per tube puts me into the realms of a Superbike Si pitstop and is totally unacceptable, especially in winter. So my alternatives are

1) dig out the single speed, lube it up, change the tyres and enjoy the pain - not ideal given the outlay on a new 29er in Feb or
2) wise up on the process of setting up tubeless.

I've heard a few painful stories about doing this over the years so I'd like to open this up for peeps to offer some well intentioned advice, ie can the tyre be seated using a regular track pump?

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Tubeless Ready - but am I? 2 years 11 months ago #1087

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I use tubeless tyres on my Anthem with non tubeless rims and managed to get them on with a track pump. In hindsight though I should've used a CO2 canister..

I used a Stans No Tubes kit to make the Rim tubeless, great guides here. I didn't need to use a drill.



The hardest part was getting the tyre onto the rim not the inflation, as the tyre bead couldn't sit in the groove which gives you the slack at the other side. This is due to the groove being covered by the new rim strip.

I've heard about putting the tyre in the tumble dyer to loosen it up before fitting. Might be worth a try if its a nightmare to put on.
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Tubeless Ready - but am I? 2 years 11 months ago #1088

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I thought the 45 minutes we were wrestling with your puncture was time really well spent TT. I especially liked the bit where my tyre lever snapped just as we'd nearly got the bead seated and the broken bit got trapped inside the tyre, meaning we had to start all over again. My cold and muddy fingers enjoyed that bit a lot.

What was even more enjoyable was the absolute certainty that after 200 metres of riding, when we stopped for the deer on the trail, the bloody thing had gone flat again!

There was one silver lining though, it ended in an early retirement to the warmth of the pub.
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Tubeless Ready - but am I? 2 years 11 months ago #1089

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45 minutes a rim... is quite good imo! I tried using tubes with my tubeless rims and tubeless ready tyres over 3 months. The sheer effort of putting the tubes in left me so exhausted I had to complete the job the next day when I had regained strength and feeling in my hands.


When my carbon rims started to seriously chip and threaten to snap like the umpteenth tyre levers I had used, it was then ,in a sweaty frustration in the lounge I had that epiphany moment.

I Stopped being a Luddite and thought how bad can it be!!certainly not as bad as what i had endured the last few months.

Whatever method you use,ghetto or legit, coating the inner tyre with Stans or other highly recommended latex should make inflation with a track pump doable.

I've seated a few non tubeless tyres with Stans so far, so recommend it thoroughly!! Just remeber to swoosh it round and tap inflated tyre on the ground around its circumference until the hissing stops.
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Tubeless Ready - but am I? 2 years 11 months ago #1093

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Tom, did you check out this post?

I've been running tubeless on my Dubai bike for over a year and wouldn't go back to tubes now, the tyres I've been running were not tubeless ready and neither were the rims but the Joe's No Flats conversion kit has worked well so far.

The only problem I've encountered is getting enough puff into the tire when you first install everything, usually solved by visiting a petrol station and using their compressor pump.

Punctures on the trail like thorns usually seal themselves if you've got enough sealant inside (you can never have enough of this stuff, also wise to carry a small top-up bottle too).Cuts in the tyre are a little more tricky as you need a tubeless repair kit where you basically shove a sticky caterpillar into the hole along with some puncture repair glue.
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Tubeless Ready - but am I? 2 years 11 months ago #1094

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Agreeing with Dave, tubeless is the way forward. Had my tyres tubeless for about two years now and I've only ever got punctures from ripping the knobs off the tyre (crappy tyres) and it only happened once..
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Tubeless Ready - but am I? 2 years 11 months ago #1095

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mikhar wrote:
Agreeing with Dave, tubeless is the way forward. Had my tyres tubeless for about two years now and I've only ever got punctures from ripping the knobs off the tyre (crappy tyres) and it only happened once..

Were your knobs Schwalbe by any chance? As that was happening to mine, I just thought it was the rocks and high temperatures we have out here that was doing it.
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Re:Tubeless Ready - but am I? 2 years 10 months ago #1097

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Think you needed to buy better v shape rims or find tyre rim combo my 317 and all tyre I use don't even need levers
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Tubeless Ready - but am I? 2 years 10 months ago #1098

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Funny you should say that, as yes, they were indeed Hans Dampfs
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Tubeless Ready - but am I? 2 years 10 months ago #1099

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mikhar wrote:
Funny you should say that, as yes, they were indeed Hans Dampfs
Mine were Fat Alberts
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